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HRE = Germany Theory by ScarlettaAgni HRE = Germany Theory by ScarlettaAgni
I felt like doing this. Cause I seriously support this theory and I don't see how it'd not be canon.
ALSO: In conclusion, if they aren't the same person, then they ABSOLUTELY have to be related
Did I ever mention I will cry if this is disproven? CAUSE I WANT HOLY ROME TO BE ALIVE DAMMIT

EDIT: HOLY BALLS PEOPLE THIS STARTED OUT WITH 10 COMMENTS THIS MORNING AND NOW IT'S GOT 111 OF THEM. But keep it coming I like getting feedback :meow:

EDIT 2: GUYS GUYS GUYS I REALIZED SOMETHING! Remember how I said HRE has an Italian accent and Germany has a German (duh) accent? Well, an addition to the theory is that Prussia probably found HRE injured, and raised him as a brother. Germany could have gotten his accent from Prussia! Prussia was East Germany, so his accent could have influenced Germany's accent.
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Pah-chan2-0 Featured By Owner Edited Aug 6, 2015
Well, I want it more than anything in this anime. I want them to be the same person. If not, I'll die or kill someone. xD
I'm addicted in this theory... But now we have more a prove, the episode 5 of the World Twinkle.
Idk if have anyone else who thinks they are not the same...
But really, I think if they had proved that they are not, I'd discouraged to watch it... hehehe xD
Well, about the theory... Would we consider the Japanese or English dub? The Japanese is the original, not? Cuz a day I saw a person saying that HRE is not German cuz he had not German accent, but an Italian accent... But in the Japanese version he hasn't any accent... And about the voice, really, I had nightmare when I heard the HRE in English dub, WTF he is a kid, why has an old man's voice? >< Anyways, in the Japanese he also has a man dubbing him (but suits him), while the another kids have a woman dubbing them or have the same voice when they grow up.

About another theories...

-The deck brush - Germany is kind of addicted to cleaning, he may have become addicted after using this deck brush many times.
-May be Italy who taught him to draw.
-Germany dreamed/saw Chibitalia (World Series 10), and Chibitalia may have recognized him.
-Italy just say goodbye to Germany and HRE. In these two times, someone came and called Germany/HRE to go away. (kkkk ok, it's a lil crazy xD)
-Germany admires and knows a lot about the Roman Empire, HRE wanted to be the new Roman Empire.
And a lot of another "coincidences"...

*Sorry, my English sucks... xD
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XxXAngelKittyXxX Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2015  Student
I believe your theory, and yes I noticed that HRE is Germany, and I have a theory about that anime I called "Hetalia Theory - Italy's childhood theory" With the blue eyes blond hair down hair angry attitudes and nightmares of France, they're completely similars, this is Italy always want it, Italy doesn't loves Germany (HRE), He's just want a friend to care him and help him because He always is alone (What a poor baby italian TAT) After HRE leaves Italy forget about him, and some many keps asking Italy was dressing as a maid girl, is because Hungary (His mother) dressing Italy as maid to take a look is comfortable for him, when Italy grown up with the same dress Hungary was so happy that he grown up but Austria (His father) never noticed about that but after this Austria always want Italy like his own son, and sometimes Germany comes Austria's house, because always thing Austria keeps tell Germany to stay away from Italy (Why am I thinkig!?)




But honestly I don't ship GerIta because I always watch Germany and Italy like friends
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HetaliaFangirl1012 Featured By Owner May 26, 2015
Actually, Prussia is older because if you've watched "World Series" With the little Prussia clips, he wasn't always Prussia, but the Teutonic Knights.
Sorry, I'm a REALLY big Hetalia fan so I try to collect as much info as I can.
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner May 26, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
I made this in my early stages of Hetalian-dom, I now realize Prussia is older X3
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E-Sane Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I believe this theory will be proven someday. Maybe they'll make a special episode of the Anime, showing that it is indeed true. Or just put it in a manga randomly.
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Lighteningrider Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I support this theory, however, I do see a huge plothole in the form of Prussia. If HRE was his brother, he would be inclined to show it off to Hungary, who personaly knows Holy Rome… Eh, that's just my theory. However, thanks for the theory! 
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LadySarah84 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes,but like Italy,Hungary could also have forgotten what Holy Rome looks like.You can forget a lot in over 200 years,I'm sure!
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Lighteningrider Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Oh, okay, I guess that works.
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Mely-Val Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2014  Student General Artist
Prussia was the Teutonic Order, before being the nation we all know, so if Prussia whent from a Teutonic Knight to Prussia, and to East Germany, that means that Germany can be HRE also
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Uh, I'm not following your point, can you go a bit more in depth?
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Mely-Val Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2014  Student General Artist
mangadoom.co/hetalia_world_sta… here, this will help you, now is cannon XD
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
YES.
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mechathefox Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
This is the first time I read something like " HRE is a girl and is now know like Lietchenstein" I never laughed so hard xDD Wtf said that????
About the final of Bono San Valentino, I made this: mechathefox.deviantart.com/art…
Hey! Gerita is the only yaoi couple I ship too!! xD
"Let's see,  he looks like Holy Rome....and Germany...and Lucius Malfoy (I'm not kidding he does)" HAHAHAHAHAH XD
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
People really do support the HRE = Germany theaory, becau8se Liechtenstein is the only surviving part of the HRE, or so I've heard.

And GAWD that is so cute oAo
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mechathefox Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I knoeeeeeeeeeew :3 xD
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mechathefox Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
OMG LOOK WHAT I FOUND. WE THINK THE SAME ZOMG www.zerochan.net/898418#full
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YouMustThinkMeMad Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2014
I never thought it was a theory, I was so surprised! I always thought that HRE=Germany, to me it was said in the anime, with the physical compare and the last sentence: we'll meet again.
However, if they don't speak about the past, I thought it olny was because they became new countries, so they were different persons, with new memories to make. They just enjoy the present.
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
When I first got into Hetalia, I thought HRE was Germany, but I was so confused cause when Italy and Germany met, it was like 2 strangers meeting, and that's how I was introduced to the theory.
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YouMustThinkMeMad Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2014
^^ okay!
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TheAwesomeMooMoo Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
THIS
THEORY
IS
AMAZING.
I remember hearing about a scene where France told Italy that HRE was dead, though according to your theory, this could just be Germany overhearing that France was GOING to tell Italy that Germany was HRE, and Germany was all "you are to keep this a secret at all costs. just tell italy that hre's dead or something."
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
No, I was implying that France possibly lied to Italy (for whatever reason, you can decide for yourself), or really thought HRE was dead, and his words were "The Holy Roman Empire is no more." "No more" doesn't directly imply death.

Thanks~~~
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TheAwesomeMooMoo Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
that's better than what i thought. mustn't have read that part. = 7 =

you're welcome!
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QueenMuffinAnScruffy Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay also,
in
hetalia-crusade.deviantart.com…
(view this for visual understanding ^)

Buon San Valentino part 1 italy says:
"Well i did have a first love.."
That germany thinks:
'That's a releif. For a second i thought...'
Than italy continues:
"But he was another boy."

Germany of course FLIPS OUT!

So Italy did remember HRE all this time.
AWWWW! :3
Kawaii- Desu!

Random fact: In japan they don't pronounce it ,DESŪ, they pronounce it as DES
Thank you Pimslers quick and simple Japanese course.
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Actually, it is pronounced "desu", but they say it so fast/not exaggerated, it sounds like only "des"

And the dialogue in the Buon San Valentino strip in the deviation was taken from a scanlation, I only typed it out in larger font so people could know what they're saying.
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QueenMuffinAnScruffy Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
there's no way that HRE could be Liechtenstein because Liechtenstein has green eye and HRE has Blue eyes.
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
That's what I thought, too. I've always thought of Liechtenstein as Germany's little cousin.
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DerpWerp Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014
O.o Yes. Just, yes. There is no other way.
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I

know

right?
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AxleRoseFrey Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wiki does confirm that HRE was the first formation of Germany
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Hetalia Wiki? It currently says it's just speculation and a common argument that they are the one and the same.
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AxleRoseFrey Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Not Hetalia Wiki but if the creator wants to be canon and give HRE & Chibitalia the EVENTUAL happy ending they deserve... then he'll listen to Wikipedia and say HRE was Germany's first formation. It's honestly just no way to go around it
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Azulona Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013
This was indeed very well done! ;)

But about HRE being the older sibling...I think he would still be the youngest, I'll explain why xD Prussia is pictured as a kid when being the Teutonic Knights, and he was best friends with Chibi Hungary. That would mean Prussia and Hungary would have more or less the same age. Then, in the Chibitalia skits, we can see an adult Hungary. So, by the time Chibitalia and HRE met, Prussia would be an adult already :)
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Hungary at that time looked more like 15 than grown up but still you make a valid point
Thanks~
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Noru-kinz Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I just love to go back to this and see my hard work rewarded...314 comments....Pffff–XDDDD And now I'm part of, like, 40 more groups ¬u¬
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013  Student Traditional Artist

XD it's part of my work too

it is my deviation after all

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Noru-kinz Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013  Student Digital Artist
You know what I mean~ XDDD :iconepichighfiveplz:
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ItaloAmericana Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This makes so much sense!!
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Ikr?
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Wolfp3lt Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I would also like to say that HRE's and Germany's eyebrows are practically identical!

And in mangas and animes eyebrows tend to be very very VERY unique to the character itself.

Just putting that out there...
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Especially Iggy's XD
But yeah, identical eyebrows
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Wolfp3lt Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
XD Oh yes

Identical! I even looked at the second episode of season 1 to see if animated angry HRE eyebrow's would be the same as Germany's.

AND THEY WERE
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
:O
Especially when they're mad
It goes down at a curved slant and goes up a bit at the end and gets a little thicker
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Wolfp3lt Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Yeah!

And the insides of their eyebrows (the part that points towards your nose when you're mad) are thicker than the ends of their eyebrows!
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
It bends a bit up even when they aren't mad
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Wolfp3lt Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Yeah.

Long story short they have the same eyebrows :o
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Yet another similarity in their appearances
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Wolfp3lt Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THIS TO SUPPORT THE THEORY wolfpelt9550.deviantart.com/ar…
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I already saw that and I just
Apparently everyone HAS forgotten HRE ;A;
Even HRE himself
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Wolfp3lt Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
D:
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ScarlettaAgni Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
WHY MUST THE GOOD AMNESIA YOUNG
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